[MSNoise] MSNoise Digest, Vol 15, Issue 7

Esteban Chaves echfisica at gmail.com
Tue Mar 31 16:05:58 UTC 2015


Thanks Thomas!

-Esteban 
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>   1. Re: MSNoise Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5 (Thomas Lecocq)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 17:57:18 +0200
> From: Thomas Lecocq <thomas.lecocq at seismology.be>
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> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] MSNoise Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5
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> Esteban,
> 
> nope, it should come from the database, the "export_format" bit :-)
> 
> @Aur?lien: yeahh, I know... you made a point :-)
> 
> tom
> 
> Le 31/03/2015 17:44, Esteban Chaves a ?crit :
>> Hi Aurelien;
>> 
>> You can change that in the s05compute_mwcs.py (lines: 107 and 111) accordingly.
>> I had the same issue, but currently I?m using only SAC format. So I fixed it to SAC.
>> 
>> Thomas, maybe could be useful to include a parameter in the command line with the format of the data that the
>> people want to work with for instance: -s (SAC) -m (MSEED)? I Just thought...
>> 
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>>> Today's Topics:
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>>>   1. Uncompatibility with CC saved as SAC files (Aur?lien Mordret)
>>>   2. Re: Uncompatibility with CC saved as SAC files (Thomas Lecocq)
>>>   3. Re: Uncompatibility with CC saved as SAC files (Aur?lien Mordret)
>>>   4. Re: MSNoise Digest, Vol 15, Issue 4 (Esteban Chaves)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:06:43 -0400
>>> From: Aur?lien Mordret <mordret at mit.edu>
>>> To: Python Package for Monitoring Seismic Velocity Changes using
>>> 	Ambient	Seismic Noise <msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be>
>>> Subject: [MSNoise] Uncompatibility with CC saved as SAC files
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 	<CA+o6fp2ptOtgHvmKxrmDBsfMxPzPOiHd5-SvzABwzzz+q1svmQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>>> Hi Thomas,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Great job for the 1.3.1 MSNoise version!
>>> 
>>> I have however encountered a problem when computing the MWCS: the function
>>> only takes Miniseed files as input, which is no compatible with the fact
>>> that you can save the CC as SAC files.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here is the error below.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Aurelien
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>  File "/usr/local/bin/msnoise", line 9, in <module>
>>>    load_entry_point('msnoise==1.3.1', 'console_scripts', 'msnoise')()
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>> line 393, in run
>>>    cli(obj={})
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 610, in
>>> __call__
>>>    return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 590, in
>>> main
>>>    rv = self.invoke(ctx)
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 936, in
>>> invoke
>>>    return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 782, in
>>> invoke
>>>    return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 416, in
>>> invoke
>>>    return callback(*args, **kwargs)
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>> line 199, in compute_mwcs
>>>    main()
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/s05compute_mwcs.py",
>>> line 110, in main
>>>    ref = read(rf)[0].data
>>>  File
>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/obspy/core/util/decorator.py", line
>>> 371, in new_func
>>>    return func(*args, **kwargs)
>>>  File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/obspy/core/stream.py", line
>>> 224, in read
>>>    raise IOError(2, "No such file or directory", pathname)
>>> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
>>> 'STACKS/01/REF/ZZ/DK_ANGG_DK_ANGG.MSEED'
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 16:15:33 +0200
>>> From: Thomas Lecocq <thomas.lecocq at seismology.be>
>>> To: msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be
>>> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] Uncompatibility with CC saved as SAC files
>>> Message-ID: <551AAC05.9020009 at seismology.be>
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>>> 
>>> Hi Aur?lien !
>>> 
>>> Le 31/03/2015 16:06, Aur?lien Mordret a ?crit :
>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Great job for the 1.3.1 MSNoise version!
>>> Thanks!
>>>> I have however encountered a problem when computing the MWCS: the function
>>>> only takes Miniseed files as input, which is no compatible with the fact
>>>> that you can save the CC as SAC files.
>>> Aha ! Indeed... Why would one still work with SAC anyway :-)
>>> 
>>> Until I provide a bugfix, hack the code at two places:
>>> https://github.com/ROBelgium/MSNoise/blob/master/msnoise/s05compute_mwcs.py#L109
>>> and
>>> https://github.com/ROBelgium/MSNoise/blob/master/msnoise/s05compute_mwcs.py#L115
>>> 
>>> Let me know,
>>> 
>>> Tom
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here is the error below.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Aurelien
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>   File "/usr/local/bin/msnoise", line 9, in <module>
>>>>     load_entry_point('msnoise==1.3.1', 'console_scripts', 'msnoise')()
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>> line 393, in run
>>>>     cli(obj={})
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 610, in
>>>> __call__
>>>>     return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 590, in
>>>> main
>>>>     rv = self.invoke(ctx)
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 936, in
>>>> invoke
>>>>     return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 782, in
>>>> invoke
>>>>     return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line 416, in
>>>> invoke
>>>>     return callback(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>> line 199, in compute_mwcs
>>>>     main()
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/s05compute_mwcs.py",
>>>> line 110, in main
>>>>     ref = read(rf)[0].data
>>>>   File
>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/obspy/core/util/decorator.py", line
>>>> 371, in new_func
>>>>     return func(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/obspy/core/stream.py", line
>>>> 224, in read
>>>>     raise IOError(2, "No such file or directory", pathname)
>>>> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
>>>> 'STACKS/01/REF/ZZ/DK_ANGG_DK_ANGG.MSEED'
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:20:14 -0400
>>> From: Aur?lien Mordret <mordret at mit.edu>
>>> To: Python Package for Monitoring Seismic Velocity Changes using
>>> 	Ambient	Seismic Noise <msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be>
>>> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] Uncompatibility with CC saved as SAC files
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 	<CA+o6fp1y4TDNHdTGVmMUbtUd7cVm_OkbbOJJFZBzxGnFMfVBGA at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> I fix it, it works.
>>> 
>>> SAC is nice because of the metadata coming with the data. For a correlation
>>> file, the possibility to have the event coordinates as well as the station
>>> coordinates in the header is very convenient because you can fill the event
>>> coordinates with STA1 coordinates and station coordinates with STA2
>>> coordinates. So distance, azimuth and back-azimuth are easily (and
>>> automatically) computed.
>>> 
>>> And I developed a code to automatically compute group velocity dispersion
>>> curves from CC, which reads the distance between the stations in the
>>> header, without the need of other metadata file. ;)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Aurelien
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2015-03-31 10:15 GMT-04:00 Thomas Lecocq <thomas.lecocq at seismology.be>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Aur?lien !
>>>> 
>>>> Le 31/03/2015 16:06, Aur?lien Mordret a ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Thomas,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great job for the 1.3.1 MSNoise version!
>>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>>> I have however encountered a problem when computing the MWCS: the function
>>>>> only takes Miniseed files as input, which is no compatible with the fact
>>>>> that you can save the CC as SAC files.
>>>>> 
>>>> Aha ! Indeed... Why would one still work with SAC anyway :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Until I provide a bugfix, hack the code at two places:
>>>> https://github.com/ROBelgium/MSNoise/blob/master/msnoise/
>>>> s05compute_mwcs.py#L109
>>>> and
>>>> https://github.com/ROBelgium/MSNoise/blob/master/msnoise/
>>>> s05compute_mwcs.py#L115
>>>> 
>>>> Let me know,
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Here is the error below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aurelien
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/bin/msnoise", line 9, in <module>
>>>>>     load_entry_point('msnoise==1.3.1', 'console_scripts', 'msnoise')()
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/scripts/
>>>>> msnoise.py",
>>>>> line 393, in run
>>>>>     cli(obj={})
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line
>>>>> 610, in
>>>>> __call__
>>>>>     return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line
>>>>> 590, in
>>>>> main
>>>>>     rv = self.invoke(ctx)
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line
>>>>> 936, in
>>>>> invoke
>>>>>     return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line
>>>>> 782, in
>>>>> invoke
>>>>>     return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/click/core.py", line
>>>>> 416, in
>>>>> invoke
>>>>>     return callback(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/scripts/
>>>>> msnoise.py",
>>>>> line 199, in compute_mwcs
>>>>>     main()
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/msnoise/
>>>>> s05compute_mwcs.py",
>>>>> line 110, in main
>>>>>     ref = read(rf)[0].data
>>>>>   File
>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/obspy/core/util/decorator.py",
>>>>> line
>>>>> 371, in new_func
>>>>>     return func(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/obspy/core/stream.py",
>>>>> line
>>>>> 224, in read
>>>>>     raise IOError(2, "No such file or directory", pathname)
>>>>> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
>>>>> 'STACKS/01/REF/ZZ/DK_ANGG_DK_ANGG.MSEED'
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:26:15 -0600
>>> From: Esteban Chaves <echfisica at gmail.com>
>>> To: msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be
>>> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] MSNoise Digest, Vol 15, Issue 4
>>> Message-ID: <290C0B70-76F9-40A8-8DCB-4FF6F307C522 at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>> 
>>> Charlie;
>>> 
>>> Are you having problems with the cross-correlation process?
>>> Did you check the directory ~/STACKS/01/001_DAYS/*?
>>> You must have some results for each station pair.
>>> Anyhow, could we see your config and filters table?
>>> 
>>> - Esteban
>>> PhD Student in Seismology
>>> UC Santa Cruz
>>> 
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>>>>  1. Re: Stacking problem (???)
>>>>  2. Re: Stacking problem (Thomas Lecocq)
>>>>  3. Re: Stacking problem (???)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 23:10:08 +0800
>>>> From: ??? <supertyphoon100 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Python Package for Monitoring Seismic Velocity Changes using
>>>> 	Ambient	Seismic Noise <msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] Stacking problem
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>>>> 
>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>> Thank you for replying promptly !
>>>> I followed your suggestion and updated the new version. I restarted the
>>>> whole process.But this time, at stacking process,again, shows something
>>>> wrong. (I take the test data you provided as the example,and the data
>>>> structure follows the " PDF" type, right? sorry I have less concepts about
>>>> that... )
>>>> Here the terminal printed:
>>>> 
>>>> hung at hung-All-Series:~/msnoise/MSNoise-master/msnoise$ msnoise stack -r -m
>>>> -i 10
>>>> Lets STACK !
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Starting the ref stack
>>>> /home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-5.8-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py:1032:
>>>> UserWarning: /home/hung/.python-eggs is writable by group/others and
>>>> vulnerable to attack when used with get_resource_filename. Consider a more
>>>> secure location (set with .set_extraction_path or the PYTHON_EGG_CACHE
>>>> environment variable).
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV06:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Starting the mov stack
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV06:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>> 
>>>> the CC job has marked 'Done'.
>>>> By the way, there are 2 strange points confused me while running msnoise
>>>> and I want to tell you,
>>>> 
>>>> 1. The CCF data is in the folder "STACK" which is not the name I defined in
>>>> the configuration (I used default name "CROSS_CORRELATIONS" as the output )
>>>> .
>>>> 2. I found out that I couldn't define a new jobs by using " msnoise
>>>> new_jobs" commend, it worked until I tried "python s02new_jobs.py"
>>>> 
>>>> Would you please tell me what may cause these problems? I show you the my
>>>> configuration table in the attachment, so it might help you point out what
>>>> is wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> sorry I got so many problems, but I really like msnoise. It's very
>>>> convenience.
>>>> And please give me some suggestion to fix the errors.
>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>> undergraduate student
>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-03-29 0:27 GMT+08:00 Thomas Lecocq <thomas.lecocq at seismology.be>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> can you update to 1.3.1 and test again ? I can't reproduce the bug (line
>>>>> 148 looks OK in github)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>> 
>>>>> ps: update = pip uninstall msnoise + pip install msnoise
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 28/03/2015 13:21, ??? a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>>>> I run msnoise under my Ubuntu-12.04 and l think it's a user- friendly
>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>> I just start to learn this but there's a problem arises while doing the
>>>>>> stacking process.
>>>>>> I noticed that you provide data in the folder "tests" as the example, so I
>>>>>> start my practice here.and the data length is only one day.(could it be
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem?)
>>>>>> Everything was fine until stacking.
>>>>>> I type the comment: msnoise stack -r -m -i 10, and the terminal shows
>>>>>> these:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-03-28 16:35:16 [DEBUG] Processing 2010_UV05:2010_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>  File "/home/hung/anaconda/bin/msnoise", line 9, in <module>
>>>>>>    load_entry_point('msnoise==1.3', 'console_scripts', 'msnoise')()
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>>>> line 306, in run
>>>>>>    cli(obj={})
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>> line 610, in __call__
>>>>>>    return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>> line 590, in main
>>>>>>    rv = self.invoke(ctx)
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>> line 936, in invoke
>>>>>>    return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>> line 782, in invoke
>>>>>>    return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>> line 416, in invoke
>>>>>>    return callback(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>>>> line 139, in stack
>>>>>>    main('ref', interval)
>>>>>>  File
>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/s04stack.py",
>>>>>> line 148, in main
>>>>>>    updated_days = updated_days_for_dates(db, start, end,
>>>>>> pair.replace('_',
>>>>>> '.'), type='CC', interval=datetime.timedelta(days=interval),returndays=
>>>>>> True)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *TypeError: updated_days_for_dates() got an unexpected keyword argument
>>>>>> 'type'*
>>>>>> I underline the error line, and I have no idea about that.
>>>>>> I've been seeking solutions but got less information. Would you please
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> me what's wrong with that?
>>>>>> I'm appreciated for your help
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>>>> undergraduate student
>>>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 17:42:25 +0200
>>>> From: Thomas Lecocq <thlecocq at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Python Package for Monitoring Seismic Velocity Changes using
>>>> 	Ambient	Seismic Noise <msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] Stacking problem
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 	<CA+U7X7sctr3pCZis30PQTTZtyoWPGF+OOGeBF8m5urp0GJrWzg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> the test data provided is SDS.
>>>> 
>>>> you have to remove all python source files from previous versions from your
>>>> current directory. Do not run msnoise from the install folder, so:
>>>> 
>>>> pip install msnoise
>>>> 
>>>> cd /home/hung
>>>> mkdir test
>>>> cd test
>>>> msnoise install
>>>> msnoise config
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>> do not un MSNoise-Master, only use releases (just install using pip, it's
>>>> easier & safer).
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-03-30 17:10 GMT+02:00 ??? <supertyphoon100 at gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>>> Thank you for replying promptly !
>>>>> I followed your suggestion and updated the new version. I restarted the
>>>>> whole process.But this time, at stacking process,again, shows something
>>>>> wrong. (I take the test data you provided as the example,and the data
>>>>> structure follows the " PDF" type, right? sorry I have less concepts about
>>>>> that... )
>>>>> Here the terminal printed:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hung at hung-All-Series:~/msnoise/MSNoise-master/msnoise$ msnoise stack -r -m
>>>>> -i 10
>>>>> Lets STACK !
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Starting the ref stack
>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-5.8-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py:1032:
>>>>> UserWarning: /home/hung/.python-eggs is writable by group/others and
>>>>> vulnerable to attack when used with get_resource_filename. Consider a more
>>>>> secure location (set with .set_extraction_path or the PYTHON_EGG_CACHE
>>>>> environment variable).
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV06:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Starting the mov stack
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV06:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>> 
>>>>> the CC job has marked 'Done'.
>>>>> By the way, there are 2 strange points confused me while running msnoise
>>>>> and I want to tell you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. The CCF data is in the folder "STACK" which is not the name I defined in
>>>>> the configuration (I used default name "CROSS_CORRELATIONS" as the output )
>>>>> .
>>>>> 2. I found out that I couldn't define a new jobs by using " msnoise
>>>>> new_jobs" commend, it worked until I tried "python s02new_jobs.py"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would you please tell me what may cause these problems? I show you the my
>>>>> configuration table in the attachment, so it might help you point out what
>>>>> is wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> sorry I got so many problems, but I really like msnoise. It's very
>>>>> convenience.
>>>>> And please give me some suggestion to fix the errors.
>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>>> undergraduate student
>>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-03-29 0:27 GMT+08:00 Thomas Lecocq <thomas.lecocq at seismology.be>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> can you update to 1.3.1 and test again ? I can't reproduce the bug (line
>>>>>> 148 looks OK in github)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ps: update = pip uninstall msnoise + pip install msnoise
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 28/03/2015 13:21, ??? a ?crit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>>>>> I run msnoise under my Ubuntu-12.04 and l think it's a user- friendly
>>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>>> I just start to learn this but there's a problem arises while doing the
>>>>>>> stacking process.
>>>>>>> I noticed that you provide data in the folder "tests" as the example,
>>>>> so I
>>>>>>> start my practice here.and the data length is only one day.(could it be
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> problem?)
>>>>>>> Everything was fine until stacking.
>>>>>>> I type the comment: msnoise stack -r -m -i 10, and the terminal shows
>>>>>>> these:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2015-03-28 16:35:16 [DEBUG] Processing 2010_UV05:2010_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>  File "/home/hung/anaconda/bin/msnoise", line 9, in <module>
>>>>>>>    load_entry_point('msnoise==1.3', 'console_scripts', 'msnoise')()
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>>>>> line 306, in run
>>>>>>>    cli(obj={})
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>> line 610, in __call__
>>>>>>>    return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>> line 590, in main
>>>>>>>    rv = self.invoke(ctx)
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>> line 936, in invoke
>>>>>>>    return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>> line 782, in invoke
>>>>>>>    return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>> line 416, in invoke
>>>>>>>    return callback(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>>>>> line 139, in stack
>>>>>>>    main('ref', interval)
>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/s04stack.py",
>>>>>>> line 148, in main
>>>>>>>    updated_days = updated_days_for_dates(db, start, end,
>>>>>>> pair.replace('_',
>>>>>>> '.'), type='CC', interval=datetime.timedelta(days=interval),returndays=
>>>>>>> True)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *TypeError: updated_days_for_dates() got an unexpected keyword argument
>>>>>>> 'type'*
>>>>>>> I underline the error line, and I have no idea about that.
>>>>>>> I've been seeking solutions but got less information. Would you please
>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>> me what's wrong with that?
>>>>>>> I'm appreciated for your help
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>>>>> undergraduate student
>>>>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> MSNoise mailing list
>>>>>>> MSNoise at mailman-as.oma.be
>>>>>>> http://mailman-as.oma.be/mailman/listinfo/msnoise
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:19:22 +0800
>>>> From: ??? <supertyphoon100 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Python Package for Monitoring Seismic Velocity Changes using
>>>> 	Ambient	Seismic Noise <msnoise at mailman-as.oma.be>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MSNoise] Stacking problem
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> 	<CALV7=wCR=qGCyYT8_0cW7oAJYcFRTzB=xKTRUwwjrSmiiuSCrQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>> Thank you again, I did fix the problems after I follow your suggestions.
>>>> But...sorry I want to check something more.This might be the final problems
>>>> I have.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Dose msnoise accept SAC data format? what I will do is follow the data
>>>> structure, right ?
>>>> 2. How to define my own station parameters, i.e. decide the X, Y, Z data
>>>> Would these station parameters be inserted by reading the data structure?
>>>> or I have to do it by hand? or...??Well, I revised  coordinates by hand on
>>>> the station table...it's ok..??
>>>> Sorry I have less sense about that... but I'm willing to keep learning?
>>>> 
>>>> 3. I can run whole process on the workflow. but I can't call some plots
>>>> (mwcs, dvv). i think it might be related to my wrong input of station
>>>> parameter.
>>>> 
>>>> I really thank you for teaching me so much, and since I a beginner, I will
>>>> keep learning the concepts of msnoise.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>> undergraduate student
>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2015-03-30 23:42 GMT+08:00 Thomas Lecocq <thlecocq at gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> the test data provided is SDS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> you have to remove all python source files from previous versions from your
>>>>> current directory. Do not run msnoise from the install folder, so:
>>>>> 
>>>>> pip install msnoise
>>>>> 
>>>>> cd /home/hung
>>>>> mkdir test
>>>>> cd test
>>>>> msnoise install
>>>>> msnoise config
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> do not un MSNoise-Master, only use releases (just install using pip, it's
>>>>> easier & safer).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thomas
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015-03-30 17:10 GMT+02:00 ??? <supertyphoon100 at gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>>>> Thank you for replying promptly !
>>>>>> I followed your suggestion and updated the new version. I restarted the
>>>>>> whole process.But this time, at stacking process,again, shows something
>>>>>> wrong. (I take the test data you provided as the example,and the data
>>>>>> structure follows the " PDF" type, right? sorry I have less concepts
>>>>> about
>>>>>> that... )
>>>>>> Here the terminal printed:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hung at hung-All-Series:~/msnoise/MSNoise-master/msnoise$ msnoise stack -r
>>>>> -m
>>>>>> -i 10
>>>>>> Lets STACK !
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Starting the ref stack
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> /home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/setuptools-5.8-py2.7.egg/pkg_resources.py:1032:
>>>>>> UserWarning: /home/hung/.python-eggs is writable by group/others and
>>>>>> vulnerable to attack when used with get_resource_filename. Consider a
>>>>> more
>>>>>> secure location (set with .set_extraction_path or the PYTHON_EGG_CACHE
>>>>>> environment variable).
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV06:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Starting the mov stack
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV05:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Processing *_UV06:*_UV10-ZZ-1
>>>>>> 2015-03-30 21:48:12 [DEBUG] Found 000 updated days
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the CC job has marked 'Done'.
>>>>>> By the way, there are 2 strange points confused me while running msnoise
>>>>>> and I want to tell you,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. The CCF data is in the folder "STACK" which is not the name I defined
>>>>> in
>>>>>> the configuration (I used default name "CROSS_CORRELATIONS" as the
>>>>> output )
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> 2. I found out that I couldn't define a new jobs by using " msnoise
>>>>>> new_jobs" commend, it worked until I tried "python s02new_jobs.py"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Would you please tell me what may cause these problems? I show you the my
>>>>>> configuration table in the attachment, so it might help you point out
>>>>> what
>>>>>> is wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sorry I got so many problems, but I really like msnoise. It's very
>>>>>> convenience.
>>>>>> And please give me some suggestion to fix the errors.
>>>>>> Thank you in advance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>>>> undergraduate student
>>>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-03-29 0:27 GMT+08:00 Thomas Lecocq <thomas.lecocq at seismology.be>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> can you update to 1.3.1 and test again ? I can't reproduce the bug
>>>>> (line
>>>>>>> 148 looks OK in github)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ps: update = pip uninstall msnoise + pip install msnoise
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 28/03/2015 13:21, ??? a ?crit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear Thomas,
>>>>>>>> I run msnoise under my Ubuntu-12.04 and l think it's a user- friendly
>>>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>>>> I just start to learn this but there's a problem arises while doing
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> stacking process.
>>>>>>>> I noticed that you provide data in the folder "tests" as the example,
>>>>>> so I
>>>>>>>> start my practice here.and the data length is only one day.(could it
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> problem?)
>>>>>>>> Everything was fine until stacking.
>>>>>>>> I type the comment: msnoise stack -r -m -i 10, and the terminal shows
>>>>>>>> these:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2015-03-28 16:35:16 [DEBUG] Processing 2010_UV05:2010_UV06-ZZ-1
>>>>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>>>>  File "/home/hung/anaconda/bin/msnoise", line 9, in <module>
>>>>>>>>    load_entry_point('msnoise==1.3', 'console_scripts', 'msnoise')()
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>>>>>> line 306, in run
>>>>>>>>    cli(obj={})
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>>> line 610, in __call__
>>>>>>>>    return self.main(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>>> line 590, in main
>>>>>>>>    rv = self.invoke(ctx)
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>>> line 936, in invoke
>>>>>>>>    return _process_result(sub_ctx.command.invoke(sub_ctx))
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>>> line 782, in invoke
>>>>>>>>    return ctx.invoke(self.callback, **ctx.params)
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/click-
>>>>>>>> 3.3-py2.7.egg/click/core.py",
>>>>>>>> line 416, in invoke
>>>>>>>>    return callback(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/scripts/msnoise.py",
>>>>>>>> line 139, in stack
>>>>>>>>    main('ref', interval)
>>>>>>>>  File
>>>>>>>> "/home/hung/anaconda/lib/python2.7/site-packages/
>>>>>>>> msnoise-1.3-py2.7.egg/msnoise/s04stack.py",
>>>>>>>> line 148, in main
>>>>>>>>    updated_days = updated_days_for_dates(db, start, end,
>>>>>>>> pair.replace('_',
>>>>>>>> '.'), type='CC',
>>>>> interval=datetime.timedelta(days=interval),returndays=
>>>>>>>> True)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *TypeError: updated_days_for_dates() got an unexpected keyword
>>>>> argument
>>>>>>>> 'type'*
>>>>>>>> I underline the error line, and I have no idea about that.
>>>>>>>> I've been seeking solutions but got less information. Would you please
>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>> me what's wrong with that?
>>>>>>>> I'm appreciated for your help
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Charlie Hung
>>>>>>>> undergraduate student
>>>>>>>> Department of Earth Science, National Central University, R.O.C.
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> MSNoise mailing list
>>>>>>>> MSNoise at mailman-as.oma.be
>>>>>>>> http://mailman-as.oma.be/mailman/listinfo/msnoise
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